Creating Unlimited Self-Worth with Jason Goldberg


How To Feel A Deep Sense Of Self-Worth No Matter What Happens In Life

Do you walk around knowing on a deep level that you are loved, lovable, valuable, and incredibly worthy? If not, you HAVE to listen to this episode!

Inside, you’ll learn from Dr. Aziz and Jason Goldberg how to use powerful techniques to tap into your own unlimited sense of self-worth and self-love so that you can approach any situation with ten times the confidence.

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 You Can Have Unlimited Self Confidence

Hey! Welcome. Glad you could make it here today. Is this your first episode? Is this the first time you’ve listened to this show. If so, welcome. I would encourage you to go back and listen to the previous episodes and interview that I did with Jason Goldberg when we’re jumping in to the second half of the interview today and so you’re not going to want to miss that first part. It sets up a lot of stuff that we’re going to be talking about here today. And if you’re an old hat if you’ve been around for a while, how’s it going? Because you can listen to this show in a few different ways. You can listen to it and it can be something interesting, entertaining, I mean no doubt I’m entertaining but something that you kind of enjoy and get some insight out of and that’s cool. Or, and, you could turn this into a transformation for yourself. You could use what’s in this show. You could use what you’re learning here and apply it in your life to experience a shift, to experience a new moment and sometimes we think that transformation is going to be this dramatic thing where I look like this, you know, scrawny 108-pound guy I come out of the gym and I’m like this 180-pound rock of muscle *0:01:37 this dramatic transformation the before and after photo kind of thing. But really, a transformation could just be one moment. One moment where you’re at a party and instead of passively listening and clinging to the wall you end up talking to someone and then you talk to someone else. And then not only that but when you talk to them you’re not just pleasing them ad trying to, you know, see whatever they want to talk about but you’re actually boldly introducing topics of conversation, you’re making jokes, you’re taking little risks. And maybe you just talked to 2 or 3 people that night in that new way but if you’ve never done that before in your life or it has been years or you’ve never done it with that much awareness and choice and control and power and confidence, that is part of your transformation because the transformation is moment to moment. It’s not this dramatic light switch. I mean it could feel that way when you look back like a year later and say, whoa, look where I was. But just really focus on them. You can use this show and this interview today that I do with Jason you can use this.

We’re going to be diving into unlimited self-worth. How to feel that, how to create that unlimited sense of self-worth for yourself. So you’re not doubting your own value, you’re not criticizing yourself, you’re not thinking you’re unworthy or unlovable or undeserving. You’re going to learn how to shed that and some powerful tools that Jason share that I share about how to really get back to that sense of worth that I believe is always there.

So without further ado let’s jump in to that interview with Jason.

Dr. Aziz: I love this. And so the question I have for you is how do you personally call on enthusiasm when you want it when you need it, what do you, is there a little ritual you do or just if you were to be inside your head and you were to coach us on how you bring about enthusiasm what do you do?

Jason: Yeah, it’s a great question. So there’s a couple of different ways. There’s one that’s kind of more I don’t know if you want to say it’s like one that’s more pragmatic and I kind of consider myself a spiritual pragmatist and so I’ll go back and forth and do both. I’ll do some woo woo stuff and some more pragmatic stuff. So, for me there’s a couple of ways. So the pragmatic way for me is instead of believing in myself or trying to psych myself up and do all these things I like to do very evidence-based belief shifting. And so what I mean by that is when I want to call on enthusiasm the pragmatic way I do that is just to remember a time I was really enthusiastic and it doesn’t matter what I was doing it helps to remember what I was doing because then I can really get back in that place but to recognize, you know, your brain doesn’t know when you’re bringing up a fantasy or something from the past or you’re doing something now or you’re worrying about the future. That’s why it can’t tell the difference of why you have the same level of anxiety if you’re thinking about something from 10 years ago or thinking about something that hasn’t happened that’s supposed to happen in 6 minutes. So in that same way if I can recall a memory of a time where I really was enthusiastic then I can embody that. I can say, oh I feel what that feels like. For me like I’m kind of closing my eyes and just thinking about it now that I’m thinking about a talk that I gave where I was really, really enthusiastic I was really excited to be there and I can see myself on stage and people were laughing and I felt super relaxed I felt no tension in my body. My jokes were landing. The flow of the presentation was good. My pacing around the stage felt good. I saw people really engaged and shaking their heads and I remember afterwards people coming up and hugging me and shaking my hand and saying how fun it was and how much it impacted them. And so in this moment like I have a big smile on my face. Now I’m remembering like how enthusiastic it felt to be up there and now I can bring that to whatever I’m going to be doing the rest of the day whether it’s administrative stuff or it’s coaching call, or being on this interview with you. I can call that up because I was able to just recall a time where I really felt bad deeply. Does that make sense?

Dr. Aziz: That’s awesome. Yes. That experience that you had, that talk, is a resource that’s inside of you for the rest of your life because we can actually tap in the resources that haven’t even happened yet. But, the ones that did and I mean I think those often go untapped it’s like this unmined gold inside of us. So, that’s really useful and powerful. And I am intrigued what’s the woo woo, man? Whatever works, man. Pilot on. Just I’ll try anything you tell me to spin around 3 times and howled the moon. If that works I will do that it doesn’t matter to me. I don’t care.

Jason: Well, you spin around twice first of all. Don’t over do it G-man. Let’s stay as simple as we can. So, for me…

Dr. Aziz: Candyman, candyman.

Jason: Oh stop. Stop right now. Okay. Beetlejuice, beetlejuice. Okay. So the more woo woo way is, it’s not really woo woo but it is kind of an anchoring or a grounding kind of exercise and it’s really the premise around what Nancy Kline calls it incisive questions. I kind of call it my go small question. I’m playing with this new way of speaking about what I do and instead of personal growth which we all talked about I’m now leaning into personal shrinkage, right, and I don’t mean like getting out of a cold coo. I mean like really like shrinking down and simplifying and getting back into playing a small games. Because everybody’s, oh play a big game, go bigger go home. And that’s great again if that works for you that’s fine. I have seen for myself when I go small when I get really simple and I get really clear I get really focused that’s when the best thing happens. So for me the “wooo woo way” is to come up with my go small question and my go small question is the question that really centers me and anchors me back down and if nothing else kind of helps me get rid of any perceived threat or risk that I think exist that may be holding me back and as I’m saying that I’m thinking about because this is an example we talked about a few minutes ago like if you want to go up and talk to a girl but you’re afraid, right? In my mind it’s not fear that’s holding you back it’s that you feel that something is at risk, something is being threatened, right? Whatever that is. My self-worth or, you know, there’s humiliation. There’s something. There’s a risk. There’s a threat. There’s something being threatened. So, if I have a question in my head that can shift that thinking so I’m no longer focused on what do I have to lose or the perceived threat or the risk or anything else then that can help make a more empowered decision. So in that example if somebody let’s say this is different for everybody of course. I was coaching a woman actually around something kind of close to this it wasn’t about dating but it was about kind of be their truth and showing her own power when she walked into a room she always felt kind of small and like she needed to be meek and not really let everybody see who she really was and what was at risk for her was threatening for her was feeling like she wouldn’t be loved, right? And God who doesn’t experience that at some point? I know I’ve experienced that so many times in my life especially growing up. And so we came up with her go small question and her go small question was simply if I knew that I would be loved and unconditionally accepted no matter what, what would I do? And so that was her question. When she walked into a room of strangers she would ask herself, if I just knew that in any given moment I was unconditionally loved and accepted what would I do? And if you really got that like a deeper level to just intellectual if you really walk into a room and said, I am loved. Everybody here loves me, people outside of this room love me, I love myself, I have so much love I don’t know what to do with it. So now when I walk in this room what’s really at risk? What is really threatened if I am truly unconditionally loved and accepted? And the answer is nothing.

Dr. Aziz: We’re going to pause for just one moment and then get back into that interview with Jason Goldberg.

Dr. Aziz: That was really powerful, man. I was trying that out I was kind of putting myself in that situation and think it cuts right to the heart of everything because behind any social fear, you know, is failing humiliation, embarrassment, not being liked, being rejected, all of that if that happens then I’m going to feel bad about myself, a.k.a. not worthy, a.k.a. not lovable. I mean really I did poach right on that nerve and so when you setup that question like that what it does is it meets that need already. It’s like a pre-requisite. It’s like coming into this. I’m already full. I don’t need to get that love in this interaction. I don’t need to make sure I preserve it because it’s not threatened and I can see how that just allows people to, it’s like what would you? So much of our behavior is based on trying to make sure that people like us. So it’s like, shit, what would I even do? You know and then to my mind comes like why be enthusiastic I’d be loving, I’d be engaged, I’d be humorous, I’d be bold, I’d make jokes,, I’d ask for things. I mean there’s just this, the whole world opens up.

Jason: Yeah, yeah. I love the way you said that and one of the words you said that really kind of perky up my chair was about preserving like what do I need to preserve? Like what do I need to stockpile? What do need to protect and you said it like there’s just nothing to preserve. You can give all of that love. You can give all of yourself away and it’s going to come back to you as long as you know that whether it comes back to you in that conversation or not you are unconditionally loved and accepted. Like it’s your birthright. Like this is more about personal shrinkage and going small. Like it’s your birthright. There’s a math equation out there somebody did that there’s a 1 in 400 trillion chance you would be who you are today. One in four hundred trillion. So if that’s not special in some ways you perform I don’t know what is. I don’t know how to make any of us feel more valuable than to know that there is a 1 in 400 trillion chance that you will be who you’re supposed to be or who you are now. And somebody went further with that test the math ad they actually said that the odds are even slimmer than 1 in 400 trillion and I don’t have the story in front of me I’ll find and send it to you if you want to give it to your listeners but it was something to the effect of the likelihood that we would be who we are today would be like if you took a life preserver you randomly threw into one of our oceans in the world and if in the exact moment you threw it into whatever ocean you decided to throw it into a turtle swimming in that particular ocean put their up through the life preserver in that exact moment that is the chance that you would be who you are in this world today. And I read that and I’m like, are you kidding me? And yet we still have issues about self-worth and that we need validation from the outside. That’s a birthright. You were born enough. You were born perfect and we just forget to remember that that’s the fact.

Dr. Aziz: Absolutely. I love that, I mean anything that can give us that broader perspective we can get so wrapped up in the games we play, right? The was I funny enough in that one conversation game and I mean it is the smallest slice of a moment in our lives which in itself is a small slice in human history which is an incredibly small slice in the world history. And we focus all this energy on it and we give it so much meaning like, oh because no one laughed when I said that or because that person didn’t seem that warm when I was talking with them therefore, you know, and it strips away all of what you’re talking about the magic of our existence, the majesty of who we are. And I mean I love to get that perspective by kind of expanding hours in my awareness to think about something like the Hubble Deep Field which is measuring, you know. Have you heard about that one?

Jason: No. No I haven’t.

Dr. Aziz: Neil deGrasse Tyson is his name. He’s like a physicist speaker guy and highly entertaining but he talks about how they took the Hubble Deep Field where they pointed the Hubble at a random point and space that was thought to be just, you know, average or nearly nothing special there and they held it there for an incredibly long period of time to let enough light in with the telescope. And he said it will be the equivalent of like you were looking you’re on the earth and you’re looking through a straw up at the sky but the straw was 8 feet long and that tiny circle that you’d see is what they looked at with the Hubble. And in it they saw 10,000 galaxies that are the size of our own and galaxies are you know billions or trillions. So it’s like that’s just one tiny piece of the sky and I love focusing on that stuff like that because I’m like that is us, you know. We’re not like this separate detached terrible wretched accident or something like that. We are that and that is the same thing that our planet is part of that and the trees and the water and the stones and us and all other life is all part of this thing and so anything that we can do I mean that to me helps melt some of the self-worth stuff is because, you know, would you look at a rock or a tree and be like oh that tree sucks. What are you talking about?

Jason: Yeah, exactly.

Dr. Aziz: It’s a tree. It’s great.

Jason: Yeah. You’re absolutely right. Yeah. If we walk around a earth with this proverbial parking garage ticket waiting for somebody to validate it, right? While walking around, do you validate? Do you validate? Do you validate? And nobody can validate or invalidate us. There’s no way to have our self-worth measured. Nobody can affect our self-worth and honestly and this is even the part that kind of goes against more traditional personal road stuff we can affect our self-worth because it’s not measurable. It’s infinite. The opposite of worthiness in my mind is not worthlessness. The opposite of worthiness is dead. If you’re alive you’re worthy and nobody can take that away from you and nobody can have it to you. It’s just a fact.

Dr. Aziz: I love that. Yeah, so it’s life, you are worthy, you are here.

Jason: Yup.

Dr. Aziz: We’re going to pause one more time and then take a quick break and then get back into the conclusion of the interview with JG.

Dr. Aziz: This is so good. I have other questions but I’m like, man, this thing is at the core. Because I was going to ask you about public speaking and leadership and confidence and maybe I will in a moment but I’m just like it seems like at the core of all of those things the reason that people hold themselves back from all of those things is exactly what we’re talking about here is the illusion that if I mess something up therefore I am not worthy or the illusion that if someone as a judgment of me that somehow that holds more weight than everything that we’ve just been talking about right now.

Jason: Yeah. And you know that there it is. So let’s just say okay so let’s play with this because I know there are people listening to this and yeah whatever sure. I get it intellectually but it’s not the case. So let’s just say for a minute that you talked to somebody and they really don’t think you’re funny or they really didn’t enjoy your company. Let’s say those are real things that are happening, right? And I’m not saying they’re real but let’s just say they’re real. The difference between you being an owner or being a leader of self as I call it being a self leader and being a victim if the level of importance and seriousness that you put into them having that thought about you. Right? So it’s not about that somebody has a thought about you it’s about the importance and the seriousness that you give that thought.

Dr. Aziz: Yes.

Jason: And the same thing happens with us. It’s not about that we have thoughts that were not good enough or that were not worthy it’s the importance and the seriousness that we put into those thoughts. So for me, of course, there are days please do not get it twisted that because I’m telling you this stuff that I just float through my day feeling completely worthy and perfect all the time. I couldn’t be further from the case. I’m a human so I have these moments but my victories are when I have the thoughts of, you know, man, that other person out there they’ve been doing this a little longer than me and that thing they just put out or that video they just did it was so much better than mine. It’s not that I don’t have those thoughts. When I’m “winning” Charlie Sheen #winning, when I’m winning it’s that I don’t take those things seriously. Yes they’re there, no they’re not to be taken seriously. It’s a very slight distinction but do you see the difference?

Dr. Aziz: I do, man, and I think there’s a lot of power in that. My version of winning is actually like a 30-day cocaine binge that…

Jason: What about  No strippers? No strippers or hookers? Just cocaine? Because you’re boring. That’s so boring.

Dr. Aziz: It’s just me in a room by myself pacing and kind of ranting. No. But taking it less seriously other’s people’s thoughts. I mean, this is the thing that I do with a lot with people when I’m working with them and I’m like, what if someone thinks X about me? And first of all, the level to which that person thinking X hurts you is the fact that you think X about yourself on some level. So that’s the big.

Jason: Exactly.

Dr. Aziz: But even then I mean we have thousands, tens of thousands of thoughts going through our head every day and all of us have been sitting there next to someone and like judge them and then another part of us is like judging ourselves for judging them. I mean this person’s great why am I judging them. So we don’t even have control over the judgments in our own heads let alone we want to control everyone else’s judgments to make sure they don’t have them. And I love what you’re saying of it just like it’s, you know, one thing that I’ve been experimenting with is just to scale back and making it a little less real. It’s not so tangible and real and serious and I think what I’d like to do is, this has been kind of fun. Because I have been into lucid dreaming for a long time in my life. Are you familiar with lucid dreaming?

Jason: I am. I’ve done it before it was amazing.

Dr. Aziz: I just had one last night actually. I’ve been getting back into it again and I was flying sort of moderately successfully. I was able to do it and I was falling and I was catching myself and flying. But I’ve been bring that more to waking life as well, too. It’s like if this were a dream right now just there’s like a little fun thought experiment because inside of a lucid dream we’re free to do whatever we want and if there’s a dream character. First of all, this is really cool I’d like to say it metaphor. Like if you’re in a dream and it’s just a normal dream you’re not, for those listening who don’t know what it is lucid dream is when you kind of wake up inside of a dream and become aware that you’re dreaming and then all kinds of cool stuff you can sometimes have influence in the dream, you can choose what you’re going to do, you can even start doing cool stuff like flying around or creating a woman you want to have sex with. Whatever you want to do.

Jason: Can I cut you off for just one second?

Dr. Aziz: Sure, yeah.

Jason: Okay. Especially because you said that I was like debating whether I want to say this. The very first time I experimented with lucid dreaming is when I was a teenager and my goal was to “meet Britney Spears” in my lucid dream. So, you made it. You said it was a joke. I’m telling you I actually did that and that’s all I have say about it.

Dr. Aziz: Did you do it? Were you successful?

Jason: I was moderately successful. I was flying and then I had to catch myself. I was moderately successful.

Dr. Aziz: Yeah. I mean we don’t want to go down that rabbit hole. But because I think I don’t know what levels of brain wake up, it’s primal brain often waked up for me so I know I read books about lucid dreaming and they’re like you could, you know, create a teacher that you’ve always wanted to talk to, one of your heroes, you know. A deceased teacher and have a conversation with them. And I read that and I’m like, yeah that’s cool. I’m going to do that. And then I wake up in a dream and I’m like, must have sex.

Jason: That was great. I love it. That was awesome.

Dr. Aziz: But anyway, in a dream though you’re in the dream and maybe you could be having, we’ve all had this where our dream is kind of intense and there’s a fight happening and you’re scared or whatever and then you wake up in the lucidity and you’re like well this is a dream and all of a sudden that character that’s really mad you in the dream like it doesn’t matter. I’ve actually got into conversations where I start trying to convince them that this is a dream and it’s funny because they’re like, what are you talking about? This isn’t a dream. And it’s whole weird. Who know what the hell is going on in there? I like bringing that energy to waking life where it’s like if someone is upset with you or doesn’t like you in a dream it doesn’t matter that much. It’s not so serious and I love bringing that to our daily life as well and that creates more spaciousness.

Jason: Yeah. Yeah. It’s not that serious like if that’s the one thing that you leave from this talk with it’s just that in general it’s not that serious. Whatever thoughts are going on your head right now because your own thinking is what’s creating your reality. The thought that you’re thinking are what are creating the feelings you’re having and if that’s something that doesn’t sound right to you then whatever you’re feeling right now  behind that or the next time you’re stressed you say oh I feel stressed. Are you thinking stressful thoughts right now? Actually yeah I am I’m thinking about being stressed out, you know, stressful this. So you’re thinking is what is going to create your feeling and then your feeling is what informs the way you go about with your life. So if we recognize that all of that is internal to us then there’s a story about a guy, have you heard of George Krevsky? Are you familiar with him at all?

Dr. Aziz: No.

Jason: Okay. George Krevsky is one of the guys in the 3 principles movement. The 3 principles movement in a very quick nutshell it’s just that our thinking is what creates our experience a reality. And there was this joke story that he had once sold t-shirts for 200 dollars each that guaranteed the shirts will prevent 100% of all stress other than that originating from the layers of our own thinking or your money back and he never had to give a refund because it’s true that any of the stress that we have it doesn’t actually originate from outside of us it originates from our own thinking. And so this whole talk about things not being so serious and about kind of going small and about recognizing that you have all these, you know, versions of yourself inside of you it’s all just to help you have more empowering productive thinking instead of this debilitating thinking that’s leading to you not feeling the way you want to feel.

Dr. Aziz: Absolutely. And that puts a lot of power back into our own hands. And, you know, in fact I want to give an opportunity for you share about how people can learn more about all of this stuff from you. But before we do I want to kind of put you on the spot. Which is you’ve done some pretty cool stuff in your life. You speak in from of people and I’ve seen you do it very well, very articulately, confidently. You have gone on stage and performed and rapped which you didn’t even get to in this interview. All these cools things and so you’ve done some stuff that, you know, many people have not yet been able to access the confidence to go after and do. And so the question I have for you is, what’s your formula for confidence? How do you get it? How do you do that?

Jason: Yeah. It’s a great question and the first answer that come into mind is probably not the answer people want to hear but I’m going to say it anyways. There’s something about the grounding that everything starts from, the place you come from. Like we were talking about earlier a place to come from versus a place to get to. There’s a way and as I’m saying this I’m thinking back to, you know, I’m a married guy I’ve been with my wife for 10 years and yet it doesn’t mean that if I’m going to go talk to somebody who happens to be an attractive woman I don’t get some mild anxiety, right? Like I don’t get a little bit of stirring up in my stomach. I love and go up talk to gorgeous women. I mean it can still be kind of intimidating and I remember there was actually a time just about a week and a half ago where I saw this woman who I’d actually met once before at another coffee shop and I saw her at a different coffee shop and I wanted to go up and just say, hi, because I haven’t seen her in a while and she’s very,, very pretty and I felt a little bit of like this anxiety coming up. I’m like what’s wrong with you, dude? You’re not trying to have sex with her. You’re not going to ask her out on a date. Like, why are you having this? And it’s because again I was feeling this like well what if she doesn’t remember me from the last time we talked? Or what if she gets my name wrong? Or what if I say something stupid? You know, all these things that we all go through. So again these things still come up and the way that I was able to overcome that in the moment was *0:30:16 to remember and right? Like of all that stuff that happened I wasn’t going to drop dead, the entire restaurant wasn’t going to stop and look over and point and laugh at me which is like this crazy add on this catastrophic thinking that we put it on the end of real experiences that don’t actually exist. And the number one thing that I did to get into a grounded place before I went over to talk to her was I really kind of got out of my head and into my body and just kind of grounded myself and felt a sense of relaxation. I enforced myself. I allowed myself. I gently allowed myself to get into a relaxed place. And that could mean if you’re sitting down that you just put your feet on the ground for a minute and just really feel your feet on the ground and you kind of let your body completely just sink in to the chair you’re in and you increase your breathing to be a little deeper and not so shallow and really just change your physiology to get out of your and into your body and this is something I do before I do live talks, it’s something I do before I get into coaching sessions. I did it right before we got on the phone for this interview. I do it all the time because when I can be grounded, when I can be relaxed, right, when I can really just relax and not slow down by slamming on the brakes but slow down by just taking my foot off the gas pedal so that it’s a gentle slowing down and not some forced thing that I’m forcing myself to do which I’m just going to fight back against anyways when I can gently allow that to happen then I can do anything. And I ended up talking to her I had a great conversation, I was super relaxed and things just flowed and it was wonderful because I took that literally 15-20 seconds to ground myself before I went to go talk to her. Does that resonate? Does that make sense?

Dr. Aziz: Yeah. I mean there’s so much that we want to focus on is what’s the thought. How do I get rid of this and think that and there’s power in looking at or thinking. That’s what we’ve been talking a lot about today and I think one of the most powerful things we can do right in the moment of taking the action is get out of heads, get into our body, feel it, feel ourselves, and then do and I love that and that’s a really powerful lesson as well. I feel like we could keep going for hours and I want to give people a chance to, you know, do that with you directly. So, people who wanted to learn more about you, listen to you do talking and speaking in companies as well as coaching as well. So if people want to get into your world and learn more from you, how could they do that?

Jason: I appreciate that. Thank you so much for offering. And before we do that though can I give one more example that I just feel maybe a little more concrete that can help people to get into that more grounded relaxed place, would that be okay?

Dr. Aziz: Yeah, absolutely.

Jason: Okay. Cool. Thanks. I appreciate that. So I’m a very visual person and so visualizations that I can do to help me do things that they were talking about they’re maybe a little kind of more intangible like, oh you know relax and get into your body. And so what I want so say is that that relaxed state that we’re in, the place where you’re enthusiastic or relaxed or playful or bold or courageous or whatever these things are they’re actually your natural state, right? It’s the way you were born, right? Nobody comes out of the womb and starts wondering whether they’re good enough. It’s our natural state. So, when you do these exercises it’s not about getting to some place that is foreign to you it’s about allowing yourself to get back to a place that’s actually natural for you. And so the way that I like to remember this and visualize this I’ve actually purchased what I’m about to tell you to remind myself of this and I use all the time as an example is think about the snow globe and if you shake up a snow globe the snow is, you know, going all over the place and it’s beautiful. But the snow is going all over the place and that’s our heads, right? We live in a place where we’ve shaken up the snow globe and the snow is going all over the place and where we make, I don’t want to use right or wrong, but where we kind of make a mistake or a misstep is taking that as our job to now open the snow globe, grab every little piece of snow and put it back down to the surface back down to the floor. What we all know if we’ve ever played with the snow globe before that the way to get the snow to settle back to the floor is to simply put the snow globe down and it will naturally settle back down to the floor. And so that’s the visualization that I’d like to leave you with of that is to recognize that even though you feel many times like your life is a snow globe that’s constantly being shaken up that all you have to do is gently allow the snow to settle and to come from that place of being relaxed and settled and if you can come from that place then you can choose to create anything you want internally and externally in your world.

Dr. Aziz: Yeah. Wow. That is really cool. I was just seeing a snow globe as you’re describing that. And, yes, I mean, it all seems to link together this whole conversation because when we’re in that relaxed our natural state is the one that is, you know, purely worthy. It’s the, you know, 1 in 400 trillion person is the same force that created the galaxy. I mean that’s our natural state. It can get blocked and obscured by all our thinking but it doesn’t mean it’s not there. It doesn’t mean it’s gone.

Jason: Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. So thank you for inviting me to share I appreciate that. I didn’t mean to take us back down into the rabbit hole but I really wanted to share that.

Dr. Aziz: Absolutely, man. That was a valuable add-on. I’m glad you inserted that to do that. So thank you.

Jason: Cool. My pleasure, man. So cool. So yeah, people if you do want to stay connected with me I’d love to connect with you. You can check out my website it’s which is like geometry with an M like Mary, And I hang out a lot on Facebook that’s kind of my guilty social media choice, my guilty pleasure. So, definitely hit me up on Facebook. You can search for Jason Goldberg and I’ll be the picture of the guy looking like he’s doing karate or you can go to and connect with me there and I’d love to continue the conversation and do whatever I can to serve you on your journey.

Dr. Aziz: Awesome. Thank you so much. I’ll have links below, too, on the show notes at to do that. And anyone listening I would just encourage you to take Jason up on that. I mean, he’s got a lot of great resources that he puts out there and, you know, in many ways I’ve not really met that people that seem to care so much about me and other people and like really serving I mean you really walk your walk, Jason.

So anyone who’s like moved by what he’s saying or like wow I like this, by all means reach out to him and you will benefit tremendously from doing that.

Jason: Thank you, man. I really appreciate that and you’re just nearing what I see in you. You’re an amazing, amazing guy. You’re so talented, you’re such a gift, and I am such a fan of your work and the way that you serve people so deeply and we’ve had some great conversations about the way you serve people and I’ve seen it firsthand and I’m just I really admire you and I’m inspired by you.

Dr. Aziz: Thanks, man. I appreciate that. I think we should email the interview over we should go for maybe another 20 minutes just back and forth exchanging how great we are.

Jason: The mutual admirations aside. Let’s make it happen.

Dr. Aziz: That’s right. And everyone listening can just nod in agreement. Yeah, they are pretty great I guess.

Jason: That’s awesome. I love it. Thank you so much for having me, man. I really, really appreciate it.

Dr. Aziz: You’re most welcome. Until the next time. Take care.

Jason: You, too, bro.

Dr. Aziz: That brings us to the end of the interview and the end of our show except for one thing of course which is your action step.

Action Step

Your action step for today is going to be about self-worth. Pick one of the techniques, one of the perspective shifts, exercises, anything that we talked about in today’s show and apply it in your life. Commit to applying it once a day for the next week. I mean a lot of stuff we shared was really short it will take you like 10 seconds, 20 seconds, a minute, a perspective shift, something that you can just, you now I’m going to think about that once a day or I’m going to do that grounding exercise he talked about once a day and just commit to applying it in your life a minute a day something really small time commitment wise just to keep working to build up that sense of self-worth which actually i don’t even know the way to say it we don’t need to build up a sense of self-worth you need to just step aside from all the garbage that gets in the way in our heads that stops us from realizing that inherent worth. So little exercises that just bring you back to that inherent worth. Pick one, commit to doing it once a day for the next week and let me know how it goes. Go to send a message to that site, send me a text message or an audio message through that site so I can hear about your story hear about your journey. I do care about you and your progress and I want to know, I mean that’s why I’m doing all this. That’s why this is for you here free every week as I want to make an impact in your life. So if you can share that with me that excites me, that juices me, and I’d love to hear about it. And if you’re getting a lot of benefit from the show by all means please give it a review on iTunes and that helps us spread the word and reach more people.

And until we speak again. May you have the courage to be who you are and to know on a deep level that you have an unlimited self-worth, that you are inherently valuable, that to think anything else is just a delusion of our mind it’s just forgetting the truth of your absolute value and your absolute awesomeness. I’ll talk to you soon.

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